Hello, my name is Julian high president and CEO of United way of Southern Nevada. It is my great honor to be here with Lil Rucker, the host of compassion, Las Vegas, the podcast.
Thank you so much, Julian, for being on the podcast and for hosting us at this amazing facility. Oh, well, thank you so much for having me. I've been looking forward to this since I began my role here at the United way of Southern Nevada. So it's really an opportunity that I've been waiting for and couldn't be more thrilled to be with these day. Thank you for having me. Absolutely a pleasure. So I get right to it. You know, I, I don't do a lot of the preamble. I really wanna hear why United it way and why now, you know, I think that the significance and the contributions and the role that United way has always played in this community. And we've been here for 65 years, we're entering our 65th anniversary celebration with a launch happening in just a couple weeks. And I what I know for sure about United Southern Nevada is that when Southern Nevada needs us United way has been here and that's been demonstrated through moments as recent as the COVID pandemic when the, the community was paralyzed and really wondering, and looking for legal around, how do we coalesce around helping the people in this community who are most at need in this time of great crises.
And the, the folks here at United way came together together, a plan in collaboration and partnership with other nonprofits in the community and got some amazing things done in this community, got some people emergency assistance. They were able to get emergency food and shelter. And so the history and the DNA of United way of Southern Nevada is in delivering for Southern Nevada when Southern Nevada needs it the most. And you have a long history with Nevada. So tell us a little bit about that. Well, I'm almost as old as United way. Unfortunately, I have to say I mean, that's just the, that's just the honest truth as you can see by the gray hair, but you know, it's really about you know, I was born and raised here in Las Vegas on the west side and in the heart of the alphabet streets, I a, B C you know, all the streets in, in the historic west side that gave birth and power to so many African Americans in this community born there in that community and grew up in that community until I went away to college.
So let let's go and dive in because the historic west side has such a rich history. And a lot of people like myself, I've only been in Nevada about eight years. So moving here, I had no idea what rich history was there. So talk a little bit about what it was like to grow up in the L up a bit part of town. Oh, anyway, lemme say for me, it was you know, there are downsides to growing up in a community that has less advantage economically than other places. And I acknowledge that, and I don't want to over romanticize the, the experience, but for me, it was a place of, of possibility and hope and impact power. One of the first elected African American officials in the state came from my neighborhood Regal estates, as we called it the states back in the day.
And that was one of my earliest examples of what was possible for black people and that he was running, my father worked on his campaign. So it wasn't a big deal that the, this African American guy Mr. Aaron Williams is his name. So I say his name in gratitude and in power, and then gratitude for his life was one of the first African American elected officials in Southern Nevada. He, it was our neighbor, my dad worked on his campaign. So that was just one example of, of some of the benefit of growing up on the west side, there's Ruby Duncan, another noted activist and fierce warrior for, for change and equality on the west side mm-hmm and was been, you know, involved with EOB, which by the way, was something created in partnership and in with the support of United way of Southern that, and that EOB still exists today.
So so my experience in Southern Nevada as an African American male growing up on the west side was very powerful and very affirming for me. And I took my experiences in that neighborhood with me everywhere. I went, because we were bused to back in the 19th, mean, I gotta tell my age here, but, you know, I started going to school in 1970 in the early seventies, and it took 30 minutes to school each way, every day back and forth. And in that 30 minutes, I was in the school with all, all the other black kids. And cause there were no brown kids lived on the west side back then there were black kids. We took the bus sitting together every day and that built a certain amount of camaraderie and a certain amount of belonging, even though you were being bused out of your neighborhood, 30 minutes each way.
So it's an hour. So you learn to commute early, right. And you get used to that, but that was that was a, a tremendously beneficial time for me because I, even though whatever I encountered in my greater community and my school communities got healed on that bus, going home and got dealt with on that bus going home. So by the time I got off that bus on Swar street, which is where the actual name of the street I grew up on all was well and I could go home and play and play with my friends. And there was no trauma for me around that experience of being bused. I only got the upside of that and the upside was, I got an equal education through the Clark county school district. And I was able to to make lifelong friendships and alliances that served me well even into, into, into today.
Wow. So I didn't know that piece about your father working on the campaigns because that's actually where I wanted to go next was after Nevada. And I'm probably gonna been a few details, but you ended up on a campaign that was revolutionary and it was my greatest oh, how do I say this? It was my greatest privilege and my greatest honor to do that. And I started my career in politics, working for a casino company as the head of government relations. Right. Okay. So I wasn't grassroots. Yeah. Right. I mean that wasn't knocking on tours and I was, you know, doing, doing this government relationship in this casino company. And so, but that, but that first job launched my career, which was, which has now been a 30 plus year career working in and around public policy and politics and in political environments or philanthropics environments.
And and in 19, in 19, I'm sorry, in 2007, when Mr. Obama was running for president, I knew once he had defeated Hillary Clinton in the primaries that he was going to be the next president in the United States. I just knew it. I knew. And so I went, I got about the work of trying to get a job on the campaign. And I said, I, I don't care what the job is. I'm gonna get a job on that campaign. And I was able through friends who were not Democrats actually through the repu, some of my Republican friends who had been supporters while I was in my corporate part of my phase of my career, got me, the job helped me get the job on the Obama campaign as a field organizer, which is the lowest paid job that you can have in a, in a political campaign.
But in that campaign, it was central to victory because Mr. Obama had already strategized that he was going to win this war on the ground, the number of knocks on doors. And I wanted to have that experience because I thought that's a revolutionary way for people to think about winning an election. And I've never done that before. I thought this will be a teaching moment, almost kill me. I mean, the, the days were long and the work was brutal and you gotta walk in the summer and you knock it on and you're sweating and you're getting sick cause it's too hot outside. And I would do it all over again. I mean, it was the most amazing experience I have maybe ever had in terms of personal self mirroring and, and, and sense of empowerment in winning when Mr. Obama won that campaign.
Because I know in that victory, there was a victory for all people of any other category in this country supported by, by, by the majority of the people in America. So that was a powerful moment. And it reconnected me to that sense of power that oddly enough, I had when I was a kid growing up in north Las Vegas on the alphabet streets, as we say, yeah, right. Wow. Just an incredible, incredible experience for me. And I'm forever grateful that I was able to do. So you've been, been working hard to unite people for a long time, because really the way I viewed that election in that campaign was really about bringing people together. Yes. And those who wouldn't ordinarily necessarily walk together did yes. In order to, to move that mission forward. And I love the message. Yes we can.
Yes. Yes we can. You, that's actually something that was in, in my, my email signature for a while. And that's my core belief is yes, we can. And it doesn't matter what the can is like we can, if we simply try. Yes. And I used the cliche where there's a will, there's a way I'm like grandmother love that one. But I, I really mean that. And not just because my name is will, but I think that we have proven time and time again, that if we put our minds to it, we can do it. There's nothing, can't do nothing that is out of our reach. Not only as, as Americans, but as human race, right. Not only as black fully formed, fully fully powerful in my gayness, can I, but in my tenderness with my husband, can I, and, and all these other areas of our lives, we can do whatever we need to do or want to do.
Isn't that the beautiful thing about where we find ourselves at this time and time and place in the right it is. And the fact that what you just said can be broadcast and people will be receptive is such a, a proof point that changes possible because 30 years ago, we couldn't have done that right. 20 years ago, we couldn't have done that. And, and about 10 years ago, you couldn't have said husband, cuz it wasn't legal yet. Right. So, you know, that's, that's just to me, an encouragement and a point of hope that even more can be done. Yes. So that brings me back to why United way is so important because you all received a wonderful endowment and you're putting it to work, but you're not doing it from programmatic perspective. You're doing it through collaboration. Talk a little bit about the importance of working together.
Well, I think, I think you're alluding to in fact, I know you must be alluding to the, the incredible gift that we received from Mackenzie Scott that's right. And which which, let me just say that Mackenzie Scott in her generosity has been extraordinarily around the world. In fact, I, I would argue and certainly in this country and certainly in this community where so many people have received money. So our $10 million gift that we receive from her, she picked us because she believed that United way would be effective in its execution of using the funds. I mean, and nobody has, nobody has heard her say that directly, but if you look at the examples of her giving around the country, she gave the 26 United ways around the country and that initial grant making first round and, and we completely great fund.
We haven't, we, so I should say we have not created an endowment with those funds. We have we have deployed some of those funds out into the community so that we could increase the number of partnerships that we had and support the Nu the, the kind of work on the ground through a diverse group of nonprofit partners that we had previously not been actively funding. So we went from seven funded partners, partner agencies to 44, wow. All in one year. And that shows the commitment and the talent of the team under the roof, in this building and nothing to do with me, I wasn't here. So I, all I can do is be grateful in the moment thanking McKenzie, Scott, but we have decided that we wanna be very, very strategic and partner, like as we think about how to use the rest of those funds.
So you'll see a continued flow of funding to a lot of the programs that we started last year with the McKenzie Scott dollars. So that means that the capacity is still at that level, right. That we help, you know, raise and that will then use time and the benefit of being able to evaluate what's ne what's next needed in the community. And we'll have some of those funds available to do some of that work too. So we try to be very responsible in the distorting of this gift. And we'll just because I'm here with you today. I, I can like preview that there's gonna be an announcement coming very soon from United way asking our communities to join us in in helping to at least match some of the McKinzie Scott money that came in, that we've been putting out into, into the community as a way of a, of showing that Las Vegas show up for Las Vegas too.
And we hope to, we know that we're gonna be excited to share that with everybody coming up real soon, but we wanna keep a little something in our back pocket. Right. You've heard it here on passion, Las Vegas, the podcast announcement coming through coming soon, its gonna be exciting for the community and and I know the community will come through. Yeah. So what guides your partnerships? What, what are the principles you use to decide who you find, who you collaborate with? Well, you know, it's a, it's not as, it's not a very mysterious process. I mean, in terms of you can go on our website, if you wanna apply for, you know, for some funding, you know, grant applications, you know, we do go through a, I think there's a one year and I'm gonna get in trouble here, but there's a one year like once a year we're we're soliciting you know, applications.
This is for the community impact grants. And and then people apply and we have a group of individuals from the community who then review those grants and those grant proposals. And then that group of people that outside of outside of any board board leadership directive, that that is a community based impact committee review process. I, it happens and people decide based on a number of criteria. Some of them set up by my, by my team here so that we're vetting people for economic strength and, and impact. I mean, we, we really spend a lot of time measuring impact. It's a very important component of what we do. So people, even if they haven't had a history of long term existence in, in the community, if they can demonstrate impact to our team and they have all the other criteria, but you know, met then we're, we're interested in funding those grant proposals.
So that's sort of the, the, the way the process works, but we're really most focused on, on outcomes and what impact those partners have. We, I, I'm very proud to say that we have an amazing roster of diverse kinds of organizations dealing, not pillars, you know, whether it's education, which we're very focused on. We work very hard in that area with number of community partners and people don't know this small businesses to get to get early child the education into the hands of people who need it the most because it's been show home. If you get to kids early, you get them reading and, and, and proficient and reading early, then they have a greater success later in life. So that's one of our key pillars that we are very, very proud of and then the other things that workforce development and, and then just emergency assistants.
And we all always have had a role to play in being a sort of last stop gap for the community. And we take that role very seriously. And we have systems in place and ways of referring people out to our community partners in ways that have resonated in this community for a long time. And lemme just say this, we don't do this alone. We don't provide any direct service to anybody. I mean, our, our services is that we are a collaborator, a conven convener and a partner and helping raise up the entire landscape of the nonprofit community. And that's an honor and a privilege for us and, and we can't do it without our partners. I've always said, and ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. Yes. And I stole that from people much, much smarter than me. Right. but with, with that in mind, one thing that I've seen through the pandemic, and this has been a area of opportunity, but also an area of disappointment mm-hmm is we have relied on stopping the bleeding instead of stopping the things that's causing the bleeding, what is United way doing to start or to stop the problem before they start?
Yeah. Well, lemme just say that I could not agree with you more that we have to get out of our reactive mode as a community. And, and, and a part of that comes from we're, we're a community that's under rep at change all of the time. And if you think about the, the, the, the life of Las Vegas and where we went from 1967 to where we are today, it's extraordinary and there's no other community in the country where that happens. I mean, and you know, we go from family destination to adult playground to now we're the sports capital and sports capital world. Right. And it's all true all, all of the 30 year period. Right? And, and, and the thing that I love about this community is that we embrace all of our new identities fully. And so that's amazing what we have to get better at doing as a community is really being forward, looking about the impact that all of these multiple and multiple and myriad changes have on the folks who are at the bottom of the economic ladder in the community, and what is our responsibility as neighbors and brothers and sisters and friends to help bring a, everybody else up kind of like what United way does in the nonprofit sector, right?
Like we wanna help other people, you know, get better and, and raise more money and be more successful and serve more people, which is ultimately what it's about the community, I think has to decide. And I think we're close to that. We have to decide that it is not okay simply to be the inner entertainment capital of the world or the sports team capital in the world, or the convention capital of the world, the wedding capital, or the wedding capital of the world. And you know, we have, we, we used to have more churches in Las Vegas per capital than anywhere else in the world. I mean, so all of those things that are, that are, that are good and, and, and extraordinary accomplishments for us. I think what we to do as a community is claim that we are going to be the best in serving those who are most at need in our community.
And for the first time ever. I think I've been able to sort of really articulate what my message is to my brothers and sisters in the community. And I mean, all my brothers and sisters of every striping color and, and ilk that we have a responsibility, this place of infinite possibility to provide that same nugget of possibility for those who are the need of sys. And I think that's my newly articulated way of thinking about my, our role at United way and what we, what the work is to be done here in Las Vegas that just warmed my heart. I I'm sitting here with warm fuzzies feeling that because I, I envision that for our community too. I think we're uniquely positioned in for our geography cuz we're, we're bold. Right? So we have limits. And I think that because we are so diverse, yes, we, we have so much potential to really be a global leader.
Yes. And what it's like to be human. Yes. And humans are innately compassionate and innately help one another. And, and I love watching kids because they can be fighting and just crying and just mad one minute. And then two seconds this later, this is my best friend. right. But that's the attitude we need to carry into adulthood where we don't let these, these issues of drama get in the way of what really matters most, which is our relationships. Right. So with that in the picture, how do you define compassion and why is it important? Mm. You know, I, I, when I left Las Vegas in him, when I was in my early twenties you know, and I I've always loved my community or I wouldn't have come back. Right. I mean, I could have gone anywhere that I wanted to literally, I mean, maybe I couldn't have, I could, I couldn't have I couldn't have immigrated to France and lived in Paris.
Like maybe it would be my ultimate dream, but but anywhere else in the world, I mean, I, I, I, I could, I, I, I chose to be here in Las Vegas where I grew up and there's a reason for that, but I wanna get to what your point about compassion, which is when I left Las Vegas, I, there was nothing on the landscape, like what you guys are doing with compassion in Las Vegas, mean nothing. I mean, and, but, and the community has always been generous. The community has always been full of people with good hearts. I mean, if you are Las Vegas and you, your, you know, your neighbors suffering, you're gonna bring some food over there. Are you gonna give, gonna give neighbor some money? And I don't care if the neighbor needs money because they lost it on the table or cause they, they, you know, they really just, you know, they're down on their luck, but in Las Vegas and there's no judgment about it, right.
We're just gonna help our neighbors. And so to have organizations like your like compassion, Las Vegas, working here, Las Vegas with a hope of compassion, being just a, a baseline of, of, of understanding and being is so tremendously powerful. And it is so because in this community, there was always a foundation of love, foundation of hope, a foundation of believing that anything was possible. How else do you explain this valley? I mean, so, so when you talk about, and I got a little excited when you talked about this being a world leader in compassion, a world leader in demonstrating that we can do the very best for people. It makes a lot of sense to me because that isn't in fact what, what, what we are capable of doing here. And I believe that because I've seen it demonst it anecdotally, anecdotally, and a micro level that we have people like your group compassion, Las Vegas, working on that systematically mm-hmm and working with others and helping other nonprofits be trained and helping people understand they should come to the world and come to the, the problems in this community from a place of compassion is beautiful.
Right? And so that is hopeful to me. And I'm really, really happy that night live Southern Nevada has been partnering with you guys in this way, because it's just so important that we show people through our actions and the way that we show up in the world, that they can expect empathy from us, that they can expect compassion from us, that they can be heard, make mistakes, be forgiven for those mistakes and move on and not like you say, move in the drama. Right. And if you have that as the basis of it, a community, there's nothing we can't solve. You know, we're gonna, we're gonna run outta water, we'll figure it out, you know, whatever it's. Yeah. All of that becomes a better proposition. Compassion has been systematically instilled in the community, you know, in a way that that's lasting. And I believe I'm starting to see that happen with organizations like yours and mine, and so many others in this community.
And I'm very proud to be a part of it. What I, I appreciate about what you just said is our community really is built on a foundation of love. And I always tell my couples. So when I'm not hosting the podcast, I'm on the strip, marrying couples from all over the world. Wow. And when I, I didn't know that. Yeah. It's one of my favorite things. Maybe, maybe you'll do my second. My, my vow renewal. Yes. I wasn't gonna there's no, keep that really clear, right. That's vow. But I always tell them love is infinite. The more you give the more you have. And I really think that's one of the secrets to the success of Las Vegas. Mm-Hmm and why we've been able to grow in the way that we have, because we've always given, we've given people second chances. We've allowed people to reinvent themselves multiple times, multiple times to reinvigorate themselves this, why they come here for recreation, recreation.
Mm-Hmm, , it's, it's just such an, an energetic Mecca for love mm-hmm . And I think that's not by accident. So I really appreciate you highlighting that on that other side of empathy and love. There can be overwhelmed and stress, and mm-hmm, a sense of burden. You I'm sure get requests that you simply cannot fulfill that are outside of the scope of what you as an organization actually do. And I'm sure there are probably times you're like, you know what, I'm just gonna take care of this myself. Mm-Hmm and, you know, don't tell anybody here's, you know, lunch, whatever it may be. Mm-Hmm , but how do you manage being in a helping profession where there's so much need when you're when men's wealth is ju suppose with immense poverty, right? Here you go, one mile away from the wind or something, you know, another resort and you have people on the street as you don't have to go mile, you can go on some of the bridges sometimes and, and see people that have no, no roof over their head. How do you navigate that space?
I think that in this moment you have to be real but responsible. There are the, the, the complicating factors around poverty, no matter what it is, or not having a good education or not having healthcare or not having a job or, or having those things, and still not being able to, to, to, to ECAP an existence is a complicated problem that is not easily solved and is certainly not easily addressed in even an hour talking together. Right. So I wanna be real about, about, but I also wanna be real myEd sincere outrage that people have to suffer. Yeah. You know, and I think that and that, particularly for me, I mean, the thing that always really gets me is when our children aren't educated, cuz education is really, and, and people say this all the time, but, and it's not a cliche education.
It's really central to any kind of hope of a mildly even mild successful life. Yes. And so I I'm, I'm most outraged by our inability to sort of and I'm not saying this happens across the board, but we are clearly not making lots of progress in the area of education in this community, as I see it. And that may be controversial. That may be a controversial thing for me to say as the new head of United way, not much affinity anybody, that is just the reality. And so for me, when I see that kind of injustice, because that is injustice, I I, I am resolved to be a part of the solution to fix the problem. And that is why I'm in this role. And that is why I will ask other leaders in this community, both in the nonprofit sector and the business community and others, anybody who will listen and who will be willing to help.
So let's tackle that issue first and that become central to reinvigoration or, and, and, and, and the, and the, in the, in the Renaissance era, in the Southern Nevada community. Now, I don't, you know, I, I'm not, I haven't socialized this with, with anybody on our board or anything, but that's just a moral sort of response for me as age human being, who has been the beneficiary of teachers and coaches and parents who invested because in me, because they believe that an education was critical to my survival. And in fact it was and is right. And so I, when I see, when I see suffering of any kind, my heart my heart weeps with that person in their suffering, I mean, first of all, so that's, that's, that's my immediate reaction, but then there's the practical reaction of what are you gonna do about it?
You know, and how are you gonna help address the problem? And I get the privilege of lead leading this organization, that's on the forefront of trying to help solve those problems in this community. So that's professionally, I, I know what my mission is, right. And my father was in the military. So I'm, I'm very attuned to, you gotta get through and accomplish the mission. And I committers doing that, but in doing so, there's also the recognition of that. You're gonna see some suffering that really takes more than what United way can do, takes more than what any one person or organization can do. And that at the end of the day, well, I think that's why I'm so so enamored with compassion in Las Vegas is because you all saying that no matter what, we're gonna come at this with compassion. And if that is, is that, that, that if that's the baseline, then, you know, I can, I can work through my issues about outrage and anger and denial that there's some problems, you know, right, right.
From my very eyes, you know, right on the, you know, my drive outta my driveway, there's, you know, there's people suffering. And, but if you have compassion, you can say, okay, people are suffering. I have to, I have to love myself enough to understand that I'm not gonna be a, any benefit to anybody if I let that suffer and destroy me. Right. Right. And so you have to lift yourself up and, and and, and, and resolve that you're gonna help solve the problem. And I think the added another beautiful thing in you're messaging is that if we, if we have that confession for ourselves, we're gonna have it for others. And it's just gonna, it's gonna, it's gonna multiply. It's gonna, you know, it's gonna infect us all. And we'll all be a better society and world because of, and then I think that's the, that's the promise, you know, what you're, what you guys are doing.
And in some many, many ways to promise what United way does and have been doing for 65 years, but to have it, have you and compassion in Las Vegas, at the table with compassion as a major, as a central tenant, I should say helps us all, which is why I, I love that we get to work together. I'm gonna hold it together because I'm not Oprah. I don't cry all, but I I'm really, really glad you're leading this organization. I I'm glad too. I mean, I'm every day I pitch myself, I say, I got this job. How do I get this job? And I tell my mother and have mom, I got this job, you know, you gotta, but but thank you for that's, it's, it's a great privilege to lead this organization. Lot of, of heart and everything you said was amazing, but it's what I felt, as you said, it, that really moved me.
So this has gone by so quickly. We were just about, at the end of our time together. No, I been talking babbling off. It's been rich. And I wanna just transition a bit because I had the opportunity to spend an evening with you at the farms in Northwest Las Vegas. Wasn't that amazing? Oh, it was beautiful with green planet for their gala, but you know, today you've got the suit and tie on, but you were, a little differently dressed and it was wonderful and epic, but I wanna know kinda what, what are you listening to? What what's on your playlist right now, and particularly what song or, or record remind you of your hope for Las Vegas? Mm, well, my one I listen to almost every day is like, okay, so there's all these layers that I lived through.
But in, in the LT African American community, nobody likes Kim Barrell. I love Kim Barrell and she has that again. I love her. She has this song that I play almost every day, no way tired. And it talks about, you know, how she gets rejuvenated. I mean, the message of the song is I'm no way tired because God fills me up every day and is with me all the time. And so I love that song. I listen to all the time, but, and I'm, so I'm a gospel fan, but I only listen to typically female gospel singers, all the big grades. So, so Kimborough is an iconic vocal. Those of you who don't know her, I'm not promoting anything cause she did not sponsor, but it's worth it. If you listen to her, she's done tributes to individuals like Whitney Houston. That's the level of vocalists that she is.
So she's amazing, you know, amazing voice and amazing messages in terms of connecting me to my Southern Baptist experience. Cause I didn't have one growing up in Las Vegas. Right. And so that's an important part thing for me. And then I'm a big jazz fan, lots and lots of jazz. And I like all kinds of straight ahead, jazz people, whether they're modern or older, you know, older generations. And one of my favorites these days is the Emmit Cohen, Emmit Cohen trio. And I'm hoping one day that Emmit and his trio will come to Las Vegas. I've been all around the world chasing and listening to Emmit. We were just unfortunate Portugal together this summer for concert for, for him. So I love Emmett Cohen and locally. If you don't know Jonathan car who was a local local jazz singer and also a member of the LGBTQ community and a fabulous former.
And let me just get my plugin for the Las Vegas music community, which is prolific. Yes. And you can go out and hear live music every day in Las Vegas, which is another beautiful, wonderful thing about living here. Did I answer the question? I, I think you did give us a lot. I appreciate that. So as we wrap up, I, I want you to just finish the sentence. So I'll say as a word or part of a sentence and I want you to finish it live. The United means you, you very ask every day for your neighbor.
Diversity matters because it is hope never dies. Love is potential. I am happy and powerful. Well, this has been a true pleasure in the tweet. Thank you. Thank you for, for joining Las Vegas and coming to lead our community through United way. Thank you. Thank you for joining the podcast. So it to Nova you as a person, but also the work that you're doing in our last 30 seconds. What would you like our viewers to take away from today? I would like the viewers to go to uwn.org and help us celebrate our 65th anniversary. We could not be more thrilled to be here in Las Vegas and have been doing the work, but all of these years before what happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas. Thank you very much. Will it was a pleasure to be with you today. Absolutely. And thank you for joining us for season three of compassionate Las Vegas, the podcast. What a way to end the season right here at United way of Southern Nevada. As I always remind you, you are not just to drop in the ocean. You are the entire and what you do matters for lift.